Crimes of moral turpitude

Philippines law says they won't allow a passported visitor with a conviction for crimes of moral turpitude.

What are those crimes.

Do they enforce it for a 14 day visit.

I have a passport and tickets for a 14 day stay.

I have a felony conviction for theft by misrepresentation.

Will I be refused entry?

Thanks

Philippines law says they won't allow a passported visitor with a conviction for crimes of moral turpitude.
What are those crimes.
Do they enforce it for a 14 day visit.
I have a passport and tickets for a 14 day stay.
I have a felony conviction for theft by misrepresentation.
Will I be refused entry?
Thanks
-@karpingary69


Welcome to the forum. We just went through this in a current tread. As a tourist you shouldn't have any problems unless you are a murderer or child molester. Read the current threads, you will be fine.


Cheers, Steve.

Philippines law says they won't allow a passported visitor with a conviction for crimes of moral turpitude.
What are those crimes.
Do they enforce it for a 14 day visit.
I have a passport and tickets for a 14 day stay.
I have a felony conviction for theft by misrepresentation.
Will I be refused entry?
Thanks
-@karpingary69

Cannot delete original comment. My original comment said you would have no problem if you qualify for the 30 day visa on arrival but thinking about it more, i cannot recall if they ask the question on the form given to arriving passengers.

True Dan But from memory it's all about fresh foods and cash etc. Point is 90% of the time no one wants to see your entry card and it goes in the rubbish as you exit the airport, well Manila anyway after more than 2 dozen arrivals.


Cheers, Steve.

True Dan But from memory it's all about fresh foods and cash etc. Point is 90% of the time no one wants to see your entry card and it goes in the rubbish as you exit the airport, well Manila anyway after more than 2 dozen arrivals.
Cheers, Steve.
-@bigpearl

Well, he did cite a statute law and oftentimes those are incorporated in questions on forms. If they don't ask the question about felony convictions, great. If they do, then you should decide for yourself how to answer the form. I agree, nobody checks. As for goods, if you choose nothing to declare there is a chance of randomly being pulled aside and then they do check the form. I'm not sure if the cited law even applies to short term tourists.

Karpingary69 said. . . . . I have a felony conviction for theft by misrepresentation.
Will I be refused entry?

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Up to your old tricks? You joined today and under Expat Experience, you said you're in the Philippines and from the USA.

Karpingary69 said. . . . . I have a felony conviction for theft by misrepresentation.
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Up to your old tricks? You joined today and under Expat Experience, you said you're in the Philippines and from the USA.
-@Enzyte Bob

Hahahaha

@bigpearl I got convicted of murder 25 years ago at the age of 14, am I immediately barred from getting a visa to the Philippines or do they personally consider the facts of each case? My case was about an abusive family member that I couldn't handle anymore and I'll leave it at that, is there any hope of me being able to get a visa?

James hardy said . . . I got convicted of murder 25 years ago at the age of 14, am I immediately barred from getting a visa to the Philippines or do they personally consider the facts of each case? My case was about an abusive family member that I couldn't handle anymore and I'll leave it at that, is there any hope of me being able to get a visa?
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If you murdered your parents did you claim leniency because you were an orphan?

James Hardie needs to research his options at a legal level and not me while I pour another JD on ice.

James firstly contact your PH. embassy in the States and ask them, we know not your crimes nor record and an expat site in your case is the wrong place to start.


Good luck.


Cheers, Steve.

As @bigpearl said. Why would you want to come to a bunch drunken expats for legal advice such as that needed in your instance? I wouldn't trust anything we say as being proper guidance in your situation.

@Enzyte Bob My state threw the book at me and didn't show any mercy

@Larry Fisher I've been trying to research this but not enough info about cases like mine are online sadly

James hardy said . . . . I got convicted of murder 25 years ago at the age of 14, am I immediately barred from getting a visa to the Philippines or do they personally consider the facts of each case? My case was about an abusive family member that I couldn't handle anymore and I'll leave it at that, is there any hope of me being able to get a visa?

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If I'm reading your post correctly you are 39 years of age. Do you want to come to the Philippines for a visit or you would like to move here?


Many inquires for a trip to the Philippines is somebody either running away from something or running to something, for various reasons.

James hardy said . . . . I got convicted of murder 25 years ago at the age of 14, am I immediately barred from getting a visa to the Philippines or do they personally consider the facts of each case? My case was about an abusive family member that I couldn't handle anymore and I'll leave it at that, is there any hope of me being able to get a visa?
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If I'm reading your post correctly you are 39 years of age. Do you want to come to the Philippines for a visit or you would like to move here?
Many inquires for a trip to the Philippines is somebody either running away from something or running to something, for various reasons.
-@Enzyte Bob

Regardless, my insticts tell me that BI will never accept issuing a resident visa on a murder conviction.

Arrival and custom cards similar to the ones I remember filling out.


There is also an eTravel site at etravel.gov.ph but I've never used it. You can only register at eTravel 72 hours before entry or departure.


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Arrival and custom cards similar to the ones I remember filling out.
There is also an eTravel site at [link under review] but I've never used it. You can only register at eTravel 72 hours before entry or departure.

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-@Moon Dog

Things may have changed now, but last October my online arrival form was not accepted on arrival in Manila. It was supposed to allow me to use the fast track lane but was rejected and I had to fill in the paper form and return to the end of the queue.  Fast track NOT! I was one of the last out....

@Enzyte Bob I would like to visit there, and if I like it then stay there

@danfinn so they will probably reject a that type of visa, but what about other types? Would they reject a tourist visa etc. For me?

HI! please dont be mean I just wanna ask something my bf is from uk and he is coming here soon in the ph but I just want to know will he e deported or what? he was convicted on moral turpitude like 10+ years ago and I am so afraid that he will be deported especially that we are planning to marry. Is there anyway he can come here? like on a special order from an attorney or something? please help

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@selenamarie7852


What sort of crime of moral turpitude did your bf commit?


Moral turpitude is not a crime in itself, as far as I know, but describes a reprehensible or dishonest act. I know that child molesters are being denied entry. Any less serious crime of moral turpitude may be overlooked but there is no way of answering your question without knowing more about the crime and even then it would be a guess or opinion at best.


    @danfinn so they will probably reject a that type of visa, but what about other types? Would they reject a tourist visa etc. For me?
   

    -@James hardy


Probably not as long as your name is not on some list, which I doubt. However, if you ever make any application for a visa that requires your record from home, they might deport you as soon as they see it. Look at what happened to the YouTuber World Zoom, who was doing fine until he applied for something beyond tourist although I think his name was also on a list that is probably was not flagged for his vise free entry at the airport.


    HI! please dont be mean I just wanna ask something my bf is from uk and he is coming here soon in the ph but I just want to know will he e deported or what? he was convicted on moral turpitude like 10+ years ago and I am so afraid that he will be deported especially that we are planning to marry. Is there anyway he can come here? like on a special order from an attorney or something? please help
   

    -@selenamarie7852

What was his crime of moral turpitude? Child porn? Murder? Pushing drugs? Rape? Bribery? Bigamy? Pedophilia? Some crimes are too overwhelming to accept even under desperation. Most of those involve moral turpitude. Find out exactly what the crime was and then ask yourself, 'are you Sure you really want to get married?'.

@Moon Dog hi it involved a sexual offence

@danfinn I know exactly what the crime is he explained everything to me and it was a sexual offence and Yes I actually do want to get married. We are not planning on livingon the ph just getting married so my family could be there.

@danfinn I also saw a comment on another issue here saying that if we could appeal to the Department of Justice he might be able to come but Im not so sure if that would work

@selenamarie7852


Are you planning on having children with your UK sex offender?

@Lotus Eater no not a chance I don't like taking care of one ever.


    @Lotus Eater no not a chance I don't like taking care of one ever.
   

    -@selenamarie7852

Is that because you would not trust your future husband being around your child?

@selenamarie7852


Your profile states that you are a British Virgin Islands national. So you would like to wed your UK sex offender boyfriend in the Philippines?


    @selenamarie7852
Are you planning on having children with your UK sex offender?
   

    -@Lotus Eater


The first is obvious - Don't marry a sex offender - Once should be enough to scare you away. Twice might be you or your family.


The next is to read this


https://unlock.org.uk/advice/informatio … uirements/


https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati … tions-2012


and

https://ridleyandhall.co.uk/sex-offende … -are-they/


  • Unable to go to a place where it is likely there will be a large number of children, for example a playground or park
  • No unsupervised contact with children under the age of 18
  • Unable to delete their internet history
  • Unable to use the internet without having installed computer monitoring software


and

Sarah's Law
Similar to Megan's Law in the United States, Sarah's Law is a disclosure scheme across England and Wales which allows people to formally ask the police about people they are concerned about, who has access to their child, if they have any child sexual offences.
The request will be dealt with by a case officer and usually takes around 45 days. When the police have investigated the person/people of concern, they will confidentially reveal those details to the person who is most able to protect that child if it is in the interest of the child to do so, for example, a parent, guardian or carer.


You might also want to know people tend to prefer to step in dog poop rather than live near a pervert. That might come down to the locals watching your house, or the sex pest getting a beating from time to time.


If you have kids, social services will be all over you.

If there is a sex crime in the area, your husband will get the blame until the locals find out it wasn't him, then some will blame him anyway.


Many companies won't hire a sex offender, and many can't because the law stops them from doing so - That's any job that puts the pest anywhere near a kid.


If you do get a job, your employer might well be notified you live with a sex offender - That restricts your working relationships and you might well get bullied out of work


Same goes for social situations.


Now to the question - Do you want to live a life like that?

@Cherryann01 no, because I simply dont want one not all women wants kids.

@Lotus Eater im from the ph he is from uk just clicked the stuff I had to in a hurry


    @Cherryann01 no, because I simply dont want one not all women wants kids.
   

    -@selenamarie7852


A rare Filipina specimen

@Lotus Eater dont want it they are cute yes but loud and expensive and I saw one gave birth dont want it to happen on my thing looks painful lol


    @Lotus Eater dont want it they are cute yes but loud and expensive and I saw one gave birth dont want it to happen on my thing looks painful lol        -@selenamarie7852

obviously i could never know how painful giving birth is, but kids do also bring joy to a couples life.

Now getting your banana caught in the zip of your trousers is painful and even more painful trying to get it free again

Also what Fred said is good advise and I would just add that anybody associated with a sex offender including family and friends will probably be tarnished with the same brush, ignored, not welcome and maybe even targeted.

@Cherryann01 well yeah  lots of couples their kids are def the love of their lives but not for me really, thought about it, really cant see myself having one. Its just my opinion really.

@Cherryann01 I am actually already soo confused some site says like in unlocked says that unless you wont be needing a visa they wont know about the records and then another says no chance for them to enter so confusing.

Another note for the poster concerned.

If this is an internet relationship, you realise your chances of getting a UK visa are limited, don't you?